Team Rocket Elite wrote: Kordosa wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:Underestimating same-series...
Could you maybe explain the implications of same-series matches then, because I don't seem to understand. When it comes down to it, it's simply Kanade vs. Yui, isn't it? Those that favor Kanade more will vote for her, and those for Yui, will vote likewise. And then anti-voters, faction voters, etc. How does the same-series criteria play a role? Because other than telling Yui that her guitar is the reason the band is dead before "confiscating" it, I don't remember Kanade really interacting with Yui in-series.
Of course, I quite possibly overestimated Yui's strength due to being (in the words of an NPC) "Yui-nyan-san's fan" and thus a victim of wishful thinking.
When two characters from the same series face each other, sometimes the winner does a lot better than they would if the characters were unrelated. If the characters are close together in strength it might not happen at all (eg. Yui (50.02%) vs Yuri(49.98%)). If the characters are far apart in strength, the difference can be significant (eg. Charlotte(74.19%) vs Laura (25.81%)).
If a character does really badly in a same series match up, it doesn't necessarily mean a loss of strength. For example, Kanade got 73.13% on Yuri. That's more than she got on Ayase(73.07%) and a little worse than Yami (73.48%). Yuri would go on to score 62.36% on Ayase and 61.32% on Yami. It's pretty clear that Yuri is way stronger than Ayase or Yami despite getting a similar percentage of the votes on Kanade.
In addition to this effect occurring in same series match ups, it also happens with matches involving two Kugimiya Rie characters (eg. Taiga(69.33%) vs Louise(30.67%)).
As for why this effect occurs at all, I only have theories. I can only say for certain that it does happen. My guess on why it happens is same series characters cause a correlation in voter preference. Voters who like Tsumugi more than average, also like Mio more that average and voters who like Mio less tend to like Tsumugi less. This leads to voters tending to always have Mio higher which leads to Tsumugi getting killed by Mio. Mio got 76.68% which beats Kanade's 72.35% on Tsumugi and Mio isn't close to Kanade in strength.
Oooo theorycrafting, I want to join!
So for starters, I don't think it's a widely-contested fact that of all the factors that influence voting, series (or block) voting is one of the most prominent. It's not hard to see then, that anyfactors that influences the block voters
themselves, influences the results highly.
Intra-series match-ups effects block voters in several ways:Effect 1
- An Angel Beats fanboy (or 500 of them) regularly votes Yui and Kanade against any non-AB girls.
- One day, Yui vs Kanade happens; series voting obviously does not exist here.
- What does the fanboy do? Vote whichever girl he likes more.
In short, intra-series matches force block voters to make a choice. Any skew towards any side (say, 400 for Kanade and 100 for Yui) makes for a pure unmitigated 300 additional vote difference in addition
to the normal difference in strength caused by people who don't block vote. In this scenario, if Kanade was expected to win 3000 to 1500 by statistics alone, it would be turned into 3150 vs. 1350. Keep in mind that this hasn't even taken into account that most
voters block vote (you can find countless evidence of people admitting they'd rather vote for someone from a series they've watched than someone they don't really know). If you consider 50% of the voting base doing this, the effects are gimongous.Effect 2
It's already hard to distinguish between voting for moe and voting for your favorite character; it's even harder to distinguish this when they're characters from the same series. When people watch an anime, they have a relatively clear notion of which character they like the most. The catch in this is that people in a fanbase tends to have a hivemind about character rankings, or else they wouldn't be considered in the same fanbase. Thus, when you pit someone like Kanade, who is the single most popular character in Angel Beats, against Yui, who is not as popular, it's easy to see who the fanbase would go for. Extending beyond the fanbase, anyone
who has watched the series would be susceptible to this effect. This is why, for intra-series matches where the girls share an equally loyal fanbase (such as Haruhi and Yuki) or are roughly equally popular (Yui and Yuri
... not a very accurate poll, but hey, first one I found), the result is not skewed.tl;dr
: People vote by series. In an intra-series matchup, they tend to skew greatly towards one side.